{"id":789,"date":"2009-07-13T18:39:20","date_gmt":"2009-07-13T18:39:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/meeseeks:5080\/blog\/?p=789"},"modified":"2009-07-13T18:39:20","modified_gmt":"2009-07-13T18:39:20","slug":"on-knowing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/vukutu.com\/blog\/2009\/07\/on-knowing\/","title":{"rendered":"On knowing"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I have long thought the many of the members of the cult of militant anti-religionists \u2014 people like Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens \u2014 have\u00a0been assailing a straw-man.\u00a0\u00a0 Their\u00a0target is religious belief\u00a0of a\u00a0particularly narrow, fundamentalist kind, and as Terry Eagleton among others have noted, this target is a gross caricature of most\u00a0of the people who practice or believe religious ideas.\u00a0\u00a0 The main argument of the anti-God cult is usually that religious beliefs are held without evidence.<br \/>\nFirst, as the\u00a0writer Karen Armstrong discusses <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/commentisfree\/belief\/2009\/jul\/12\/religion-christianity-belief-science\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">today<\/a>, for most people,\u00a0religion is about doing, not about knowing.\u00a0\u00a0 It&#8217;s really\u00a0only philosophers and their street-brawling imitators who obsess over beliefs.\u00a0\u00a0 Indeed, because doubt and scepticism are integral parts of most of the world&#8217;s religions, religious practice may not necessarily start with belief, but in fact end with it:\u00a0 <strong>Belief can be what comes after you practice spiritual exercises long enough, not necessarily what causes you to practice them. <\/strong>People do zazen or yoga not because they are already enlightened, but to achieve enlightenment.<br \/>\nSecond, the issue of evidence is problematic in these diatribes against religion.\u00a0\u00a0 It is simply not the case that there is no evidence for religious or spiritual ideas, or that such ideas are only supported by the irrational or the feeble-minded.\u00a0\u00a0 Most people who proclaim any adherence to religious or spiritual ideas will\u00a0assert they have evidence\u00a0for a realm\u00a0beyond or outside the material world.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0This evidence is usually of the form of direct personal contact with a spirit world or with spiritual entities, as for example, in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/commentisfree\/belief\/2009\/jun\/28\/conversion-religion-philosophy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the experience of Janet Soskice<\/a> or <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Oliver_Joseph_Lodge\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the physicist Oliver Lodge<\/a>.\u00a0 Anyone who has spent any extended period in Africa or in East Asia will know people \u2014 sober, rational, and intelligent \u2014 who have had, and continue to have, what they experience as direct contact and interaction with spiritual entities.<br \/>\nOf course, such direct, personal evidence is usually not replicable at will, nor observable to others.\u00a0 That makes it invalid as the basis of science, which is a shared undertaking, but does not make it invalid as evidence for personal beliefs or actions.\u00a0\u00a0 Knowledge of the existence of things unseen can be obtained by merely being in the presence of such entities, as the Sufi philosopher and founder of <em>Illuminationism,<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Shahab_al-Din_Suhrawardi\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Shahab al-Din Suhrawardi<\/a> (1155-1191) argued in the 12th century<em>. <\/em>Knowledge-from-being-in-the-presence-of is a valid form of knowing, just as knowledge-from-tasting is.\u00a0 Our subjective personal tastes in food and drink, say, or our subjective experience of being in love, are also not observable to others, but that does not invalidate them as evidence for our beliefs or as a rational basis for our actions.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 When I say I prefer coffee to tea, this is an inference based (usually) on my personal, subjective reactions to the tastes of the two different liquids.\u00a0 Only I know whether this inference is based on true reactions or not; if I am a sufficiently-clever actor, no one will ever be able to conclude anything about my reactions to the respective tastes other than what I claim.<br \/>\nIt may be that\u00a0experiences understood subjectively as\u00a0contact with\u00a0spiritual entities\u00a0can be replicated\u00a0in the laboratory by stimulating particular parts of the brain, as recent experiments appear to show.\u00a0 But it does not follow from such research that all religious experiences are due to similar mental\u00a0stimulation, just as using implanted electrodes to create the subjective experience of the taste of coffee\u00a0would not thus imply the non-existence of coffee.<br \/>\nIn closing then, I\u00a0wonder which is more rational:\u00a0 to commit to certain religious beliefs (or undertake a spiritual practice) based on one&#8217;s personal subjective experiences with the divine\u00a0OR to devote one&#8217;s career to studying mathematical models of additional space-time dimensions, dimensions for which \u00a0there is as yet no evidence whatsoever, not even any subjective personal experience?\u00a0 If Dawkings and Hitchens were really worried about irrational beliefs, they should be attacking <a href=\"http:\/\/meeseeks:5080\/blog\/2009\/02\/ed-witten-meet-gerard-debreu\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the practitioners<\/a> of String Theory and M-Theory.<br \/>\n<em>References:<\/em><br \/>\nMehdi Amin Razavi [1996]: <em>Suhrawardi and the School of Illumination<\/em>.\u00a0 London, UK:\u00a0 Routledge.<br \/>\n<em><strong>POSTSCRIPT (2017-06-04):<\/strong><\/em> In a New Yorker profile of business author Clayton Christensen, he is quoted regarding his daily reading of <em>The Book of Mormon<\/em>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>One evening in October, 1975, as I sat in the chair and opened the book following my prayer, I felt a marvelous spirit come into the room and envelop my body. I had never before felt such an intense feeling of peace and love. I started to cry, and did not want to stop. I knew then, from a source of understanding more powerful than anything I had ever felt in my life, that the book I was holding in my hands was true.&#8221; (Page 90)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Larissa MacFarquhar [2012]: When Giants Fail.\u00a0<em>The New Yorker.<\/em> 14 May 2012, pp.84-95.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have long thought the many of the members of the cult of militant anti-religionists \u2014 people like Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens \u2014 have\u00a0been assailing a straw-man.\u00a0\u00a0 Their\u00a0target is religious belief\u00a0of a\u00a0particularly narrow, fundamentalist kind, and as Terry Eagleton among others have noted, this target is a gross caricature of most\u00a0of the people who [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7,71,74],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-789","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-argumentation","category-religion","category-science","p1","y2009","m07","d13","h18"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/vukutu.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/789","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/vukutu.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/vukutu.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/vukutu.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/vukutu.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=789"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/vukutu.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/789\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/vukutu.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=789"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/vukutu.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=789"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/vukutu.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=789"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}